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Malkai Inos
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Posted - 2013.06.09 13:03:00 -
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There's already a thread on this subject that explains at lenght the issues with optional respecs. Please have a read through this if you are interested in this as to not force everybody repeat the same arguments all over again. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 13:36:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:sorry but no, its just not going to happen. Even though I do not understand, I appreciate the response. Thank you. The idea of this game is that your decisions and your actions have consequences. When you decide to do one thing, it could stop you from doing another. By spending skill points on one thing, it will take you a while to skill save up the points to skill into something else. By adding the ability to change your mind, you are just trivialising what should be a very important choice. By making it a pay option, it just becomes a pay to win option where you can just pay X Aurum to spec into the flavour of the month. Things change in terms of ballence quite often, by skilling into what is considered the most powerful option, you should accept the risk that it may change instead of paying for the option of getting something new. This is why CCP will not allow people to respec any time they want, thats why im majorly against anything like this. While skilling into stuff should be a very important choice, the nature of CCPs frequent nerfs and buffs turn making choices into a crapshoot. What might have been very good choices one day can be turned into really, really bad choices the next, due to no fault of the player. That is why I support an expencive ($10 or so) Aurum option for a skill respec.
The issue with balance making stuff useless is a balance and communication issue. It can and should be adressed directly by improving communication of upcoming changes and and a generally more carefull approach to balancing, not by changing an otherwise unrelated game mechanic, bringing a plethora of its very own problems while only curing the symptoms.
Let me stress that this has all been talked about earlier and that we are just repeating old arguments here. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:03:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:
That is the Pay to Win part. After a big change (say the addition of a Super Tank), the people that pay 10 bucks and say "I want this NOW" have a flat out advantage over those that will spend weeks getting them. If there is some kind of Respec, it should not have anything to do with real cash.
As I said previously: Rock and a Hard Place.
Be well.
If it's not done with real cash then EVERYONE will do it, there is no amount of ISK that would be enough to prevent people from respecing as soon as a Super Tank comes out.
That's why it shouldn't be, period. And it's just one of the many problems that respecs entail. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:For anyone arguing that players should live with the consequences of their actions, players investing their time/SP/ISK/AUR into specializing have only been getting rewarded with nerfs because of terrible balancing. It's like playing a game of Rock Paper Scissors where the the scissors wind up getting dulled because they can cut rock too and rock needs to be chipped away because it crushes scissors too hard and paper needs a buff because its too small to cover rock. Again. Your motivation is perfectly understandable and i feel your pain but respecs are just masking the underlying issue and on top of that damage the SP system to the point of becoming obsolete.
You want to break something that i and many other players value highly to unbreak what you value highly. The difference is that your broken toy can (and should) be fixed by adressing it's actual issue (better balancing and communication thereof).
Mine will be broken beyond repair. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:40:00 -
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Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus wrote:A better idea would just for CCP to implement a once a month option to respec one of your characters. So you use this option, and it reset's your skill points, but it can only be used on one character, and only once every thirty days. This accounts for Nerfs/changes, as well as new gear that will be added so on and so forth.
Or we just scrap the skillsystem because it's obviously of no worth at all for anyone and does not provide any gameplay value watsoever at that point.
The point of skills is beeing permanent. Remove the permanent part and all what's left is a 3month powergrind. I hate grinding for the sake of it. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:52:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus wrote:A better idea would just for CCP to implement a once a month option to respec one of your characters. So you use this option, and it reset's your skill points, but it can only be used on one character, and only once every thirty days. This accounts for Nerfs/changes, as well as new gear that will be added so on and so forth. Or we just scrap the skillsystem because it's obviously of no worth at all for anyone and does not provide any gameplay value watsoever at that point. The point of skills is beeing permanent. Remove the permanent part and all what's left is a 3month powergrind. I hate grinding for the sake of it. What use does the skill system provide otherwise? You spend weeks or months investing SP into a weapon class to use a weapon marginally better than the one you started out with and then spend even more SP adding on stats that don't end up mattering either because it only takes a handful of rounds to drop someone in the first place. I answered this question in page one of your own thread about the same subject and i and others have written much more on the subject and raised many problems of respecs in this thread.
Why you choose to repeat the same old arguments as if none of this his been explained to you multiple times is beyond me. |
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